Wednesday, February 22, 2006

Do Souls Transcend the Body?

Are people fated to be together? Some people believe that they have soulmates waiting out there for them to love. If so why shouldn't that concept be applicable also between parents and children?

I never really believed in the whole fate concept or soulmates. But after meeting and falling in love with my wife I began to wonder. Had I not been at a particular place and time we would never have met and eventually had these children.

There are those that believe that upon birth G-d bestows our soul upon us. If that is so, then while the genetics that created my kids are from the donor their souls are from G-d and if you believe in fate their souls were fated to be brought to Earth as our children. I'd like to believe this is true.

5 comments:

lia said...

Yes I have wondered about that a lot myself especially lately because my father is dying. He is 86 and the best father a daughter could hope for and I feel comforted by the fact that he lives in me and that when he passes I will see him in my son who also has so many of my fathers wonderful traits and I guess when my son has children I will see my father again, in my grandchildren. But what happens when we pass on? Do donor conceived people find their relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents) as often described in 'near death' experiences or are they lost because your deceased relatives will not 'recognise' them? We can't answer this question because we don't know. Spirituality in our society comes second to having money and owning things we don't really dwell on it much really. I also wonder about synchronicity because it seems to come up again and again in dc and adoption stories. Even my donor husband found his daughter on the front page of a newspaper he never buys, yet this one day when he made an exception, his dc daughter was on the front page of this paper looking for her donor. Her brother (also Michaels son) has the same name as Michael, he is called Michael and so now we have Michael and Young Michael. How weird is that? You find it over and over again. And I do agree that the chances of pregnancy through dc aren't that good, so conceiving in this way is amazing and what is the spiritual aspect of that? Are donor conceived people severed on a spiritually level also from their genetic families? Who knows?

lia said...

Just found this link which relates to the topic:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/ghostgenes.shtml

DI_Dad said...

Lia - I will check out the link. I will be blunt you have turned the point of this post around as my point was that I believe that my kids were meant to be with me, bloodlines aside. And yes Rel (http://t5sdaughter.blogspot.com) has sent me the Bloodlines links stuff (interesting reading). But the beauty of this whole blog thing is interpretation. Good luck. - Eric

Michael said...

I came across this really interesting website a few weeks ago which contained a piece about how donor conception separates children from their deeper spiritual roots and that they are therefore destined to be spiritually bereft in a significant way. The problem is that we are so tied to the scientific empirically based system of explanation and justification that consequentially we are quick to dismiss all the intangibles which inform our relationships. I deeply believe that the reason I found my two donor-conceived children was because the linking energy was so much out there that it was inevitable. My daughter, in particular, so dearly wanted to find me that she created a fracture in time and space in which that became possible. Why else, was it one of the most incredible magical experiences which I have ever had in my life?

lia said...

di-dad I understand that you are seeking lots of positive reinforcement with regards to your donor recipient situation (BECAUSE YOU LOVE YOUR KIDS). But as a person who stands behind donor conceived people, I will find it hard to validate your needs until I see more validation and respect (from the participants of the donor conception community - both parents and donors) for the needs of donor conceived people. I know that you have come closer to this position than almost 100% of the participants in the donor conception arena and I truly respect that because it is unique (you must really love your kids to be so open and honest about their situation). However, as long people persist in refusing to respect and validate the plight of donor conceived people, I will continue to remind social parents of the situation they have placed their 'adopted' children in. All donor conceived people need is validation of their feelings and a true respect for their pain and what they have lost so you can parent. I know it is harsh but what donor conceived people have to go through is harsh too and it really is time that people woke up to it and allowed donor conceived people (even if it is a minority) the freedom to speak about their loss without being abused and agressively attacked. It is just not on and stupidly unfair, just as you think it is not on and stupidly unfair that you can't procreate 'the natural way'. Really, if you guys love your kids so much then STOP SITTING ON THE FENCE AND JUMP IN AND FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS.